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	<title>Comments on: Will Facebook bring back PBM games?</title>
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		<title>By: tnovelli</title>
		<link>http://programmerjoe.com/2007/11/11/will-facebook-bring-back-pbm-games/comment-page-1/#comment-505755</link>
		<dc:creator>tnovelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool. I never realized EC was so popular. Some of my friends are nuts about it. I&#039;m starting work on a clone or take-off. It&#039;ll be web-based of course, using HTML5 Canvas for the map.

We&#039;re also seeking players for a bona fide game of EC starting this week... see tnovelli.net/conquest if interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool. I never realized EC was so popular. Some of my friends are nuts about it. I&#8217;m starting work on a clone or take-off. It&#8217;ll be web-based of course, using HTML5 Canvas for the map.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re also seeking players for a bona fide game of EC starting this week&#8230; see tnovelli.net/conquest if interested.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://programmerjoe.com/2007/11/11/will-facebook-bring-back-pbm-games/comment-page-1/#comment-502079</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved EC.  I certainly wish there were a version available true to the original or at this point I would settle for a clone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved EC.  I certainly wish there were a version available true to the original or at this point I would settle for a clone.</p>
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		<title>By: johncorea</title>
		<link>http://programmerjoe.com/2007/11/11/will-facebook-bring-back-pbm-games/comment-page-1/#comment-444865</link>
		<dc:creator>johncorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello fellow esterian conquest fans :) I miss the game as well. Back in the day i wrote a graphical interface for the game. EC COMMANDER. It made the game even more fun... 


Then a few years ago I started working on a version for windows. I didnt lay out extensive plans how it would work but i just had fun laying out the screens. A couple screenshots below

The esterian universe screen :)

http://home.comcast.net/~swl/ecwin.jpg

The build menu

http://home.comcast.net/~swl/ecbuild.jpg

Anyway.... to do it right is alot of work and I just wasnt willing to put in all that time and then discover not that much interest. I may get back to it someday. I wish someone else would though. i sure enjoyed that game. The stories I could tell! some people took it very serious! The intrique! :)

One thing that detered me was not having the original game rules. I was working off the top of my head as to how the game worked</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello fellow esterian conquest fans <img src='http://programmerjoe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I miss the game as well. Back in the day i wrote a graphical interface for the game. EC COMMANDER. It made the game even more fun&#8230; </p>
<p>Then a few years ago I started working on a version for windows. I didnt lay out extensive plans how it would work but i just had fun laying out the screens. A couple screenshots below</p>
<p>The esterian universe screen <img src='http://programmerjoe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://home.comcast.net/~swl/ecwin.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://home.comcast.net/~swl/ecwin.jpg</a></p>
<p>The build menu</p>
<p><a href="http://home.comcast.net/~swl/ecbuild.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://home.comcast.net/~swl/ecbuild.jpg</a></p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;. to do it right is alot of work and I just wasnt willing to put in all that time and then discover not that much interest. I may get back to it someday. I wish someone else would though. i sure enjoyed that game. The stories I could tell! some people took it very serious! The intrique! <img src='http://programmerjoe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One thing that detered me was not having the original game rules. I was working off the top of my head as to how the game worked</p>
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		<title>By: WMMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WMMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the grestest things about EstCon was that it was almost pure galactic fleet strategy. You didn&#039;t bother with trading or mining or domestic economic policy, which I think is a lot of make-work that fouled up other similar games. The most &#039;domestic&#039; things you had to do was set a single empire-wide tax rate, and decide what you wanted to build on each planet out of its annual production points: armies, groundbases, orbiting starbases, or 6 different kinds of ships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the grestest things about EstCon was that it was almost pure galactic fleet strategy. You didn&#8217;t bother with trading or mining or domestic economic policy, which I think is a lot of make-work that fouled up other similar games. The most &#8216;domestic&#8217; things you had to do was set a single empire-wide tax rate, and decide what you wanted to build on each planet out of its annual production points: armies, groundbases, orbiting starbases, or 6 different kinds of ships.</p>
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		<title>By: Effonelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Effonelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez I might have the Esterian Conquest discs as well. Have to break out the 5.25&quot; floppy too. I wouldn&#039;t know what to do with it then though... sounds like there is a market out there for it though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez I might have the Esterian Conquest discs as well. Have to break out the 5.25&#8243; floppy too. I wouldn&#8217;t know what to do with it then though&#8230; sounds like there is a market out there for it though!</p>
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		<title>By: WMMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WMMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Esterian Conquest had such a simple format, and was certainly based on simple algorithms and formulas. How hard can it be to just code a new EstCon from scratch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esterian Conquest had such a simple format, and was certainly based on simple algorithms and formulas. How hard can it be to just code a new EstCon from scratch?</p>
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		<title>By: JMoore</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran Esterian Conquest for years on my BBS.  It was very popular...seems most folks migrated to VGA Planets as programs developed.  If I remember right, the developer of Esterian Conquest lost his source code when lightning destroyed his computer..and much other stuff at his home.  That was long ago when I tried to get some changes made to it, so haven&#039;t heard anything since he dropped off the radar.  I may still have the bbs installation discs (3.5) around.
Would be nice to have that game available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran Esterian Conquest for years on my BBS.  It was very popular&#8230;seems most folks migrated to VGA Planets as programs developed.  If I remember right, the developer of Esterian Conquest lost his source code when lightning destroyed his computer..and much other stuff at his home.  That was long ago when I tried to get some changes made to it, so haven&#8217;t heard anything since he dropped off the radar.  I may still have the bbs installation discs (3.5) around.<br />
Would be nice to have that game available.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  We ran the registered Esterian Conquest on our computer bbs&#039;s for years and LOVED IT.  Our members did too - although occasionally they got hot at each other and us.    Is there any space strategy game out there now that works on websites?  I had solar wars but it wasn&#039;t very good or didn&#039;t seem to be.  MajorHart@sbcglobal.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  We ran the registered Esterian Conquest on our computer bbs&#8217;s for years and LOVED IT.  Our members did too &#8211; although occasionally they got hot at each other and us.    Is there any space strategy game out there now that works on websites?  I had solar wars but it wasn&#8217;t very good or didn&#8217;t seem to be.  <a href="mailto:MajorHart@sbcglobal.net">MajorHart@sbcglobal.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: WMMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WMMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Esterian Conquest&quot;???... did someone say &quot;Esterian Conquest&quot;?... count me in, if it ever flies again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Esterian Conquest&#8221;???&#8230; did someone say &#8220;Esterian Conquest&#8221;?&#8230; count me in, if it ever flies again.</p>
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		<title>By: mich</title>
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		<dc:creator>mich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do benefit from this new platform. I so like many applications available in facebook now. I get to enjoy my free time playing my favorite Realm of Empires. It&#039;s just so sad to know that some applications or games are not licensed. How could this happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do benefit from this new platform. I so like many applications available in facebook now. I get to enjoy my free time playing my favorite Realm of Empires. It&#8217;s just so sad to know that some applications or games are not licensed. How could this happen?</p>
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